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Shawn Meehan's avatar

You write so much which is not true. The 1787 Convention was not called under the authority of the Articles of Confederation because they had no such authority. It was called under the sovereignty of the individual states.

10 of the states mandated provisions similar to Article 13 of the Articles of Confederation in their delegate commissions. [https://csac.history.wisc.edu/the-constitutional-convention/convention-delegates/] Those instructions specifically required anything produced in the Convention must be ratified by the Continental Congress and legislatures of all 13 states.

Article VII of the new Constitution only required ratification by 9 states, specifically disobeying their limits. In Federalist 40, they admitted and rationalized exceeding their authority.

How you feel Dickinson is responsible for Article V convention in the Constitution is disturbingly departed from reality. George Mason made the declaration that such might be needed and then Mr. Govr. MORRIS & Mr. GERRY moved to amend the article so as to require a Convention on application of 2/3 of the states during the Sep 15, 1787 debate.

It is really sad and offensive that someone purports to represent themselves as an authority but publishes verbatim misinformation of the Constitution re-writers.

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Your argument succeeds because it does not rely on modern political slogans. It forces the debate back into the constitutional text, the Founding-era record, and the actual structure of Article V itself. That matters, because much of the contemporary opposition to an Article V convention depends less on constitutional language than on accumulated institutional fear.

The central point is difficult to escape: the Framers did not create one amendment process. They created two. One runs through Congress. The other runs through the states. The second pathway exists precisely because the Framers understood that the federal government might someday become resistant to structural correction. An amendment mechanism controlled entirely by Congress would have defeated the purpose.

That is why Dickinson’s language is so devastating to the modern argument. “They MUST call a Convention.” Not “may.” Not “if Congress approves.” Not “if political conditions are favorable.” MUST. The word is fatal to the theory that Congress possesses discretionary authority to ignore valid state applications indefinitely.

Opponents of an Article V convention often speak as though refusing to use the process somehow protects constitutional stability. But Dickinson anticipated that argument too. The mechanism was specifically designed to allow correction “without shaking the stability of the government.” In other words, the danger was not the existence of the amendment process. The danger was denying peaceful constitutional means of reform until political pressure accumulated outside constitutional boundaries.

That point deserves far more attention than it receives.

A constitutional system that provides no workable method of self-correction eventually forces conflict into extra-constitutional channels. The Framers understood this perfectly. Article V was not inserted as decorative parchment language. It was intended as a pressure-release valve inside the constitutional order itself.

The “runaway convention” argument also weakens considerably under close examination. Critics invoke 1787 as though it were proof that any convention automatically escapes legal limits. But the analogy breaks down immediately once the ratification structure is examined.

The Philadelphia Convention operated under an entirely different constitutional framework. Under Article V, no proposal becomes law unless three-fourths of the states ratify it. Thirty-eight states are not a ceremonial safeguard. They are the safeguard. A convention can propose radically unpopular amendments all day long; it cannot impose them. The states remain sovereign gatekeepers at the decisive stage of the process.

That distinction destroys the common claim that a convention could simply rewrite the Constitution by itself. It cannot. The convention possesses proposal power, not ratification power.

And this is where the modern debate becomes revealing.

Many critics speak as though the states are incapable of exercising judgment during ratification, while simultaneously insisting that Congress must retain practical control over whether the convention process can even begin. But that flips the constitutional design upside down. Article V was written on the assumption that the states were competent constitutional actors, not administrative subsidiaries of Washington.

Dickinson understood this clearly. So did the Framers generally. Federalism was not merely a division of labor. It was a division of sovereignty.

The deeper issue beneath this debate is whether the states still possess meaningful constitutional agency at all. If Congress may simply ignore applications once the threshold is met, then the convention clause is functionally dead. And if one half of Article V can be nullified through congressional inaction, then the constitutional balance envisioned by the Framers has already been altered without amendment.

That is why your phrase “constitutional amputation” lands so effectively. Because that is exactly what is being proposed: the removal of one of the Constitution’s enumerated self-correction mechanisms through custom, delay, and institutional resistance.

Dickinson’s warning about bad-faith opposition is equally important and often neglected. He was careful not to condemn every skeptic. He recognized sincere concern. But he also recognized that powerful interests benefit from convincing the public that the states should never use the tools the Constitution gave them.

That concern feels remarkably modern.

An Article V convention is frequently described as inherently dangerous, yet the concentration of power in federal institutions is often treated as normal, inevitable, or even desirable. Dickinson would likely have viewed that inversion with alarm. The amendment mechanism existed precisely because the Framers did not trust power to permanently police itself.

And ultimately, that is the strongest argument in your essay: Article V was not an accident. It was intentional architecture.

The Framers expected future generations to use it if circumstances required it. Dickinson defended it publicly. He explained its safeguards publicly. He explained Congress’s obligation publicly. And he explained the states’ responsibility publicly.

The modern argument against Article V often sounds less like constitutional interpretation and more like institutional fear of the constitutional system operating exactly as designed.

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